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<![CDATA[Congressional budget referees say Senate legislation that's now the foundation for President Barack Obama's health care plan would cut the federal deficit by $118 billion over 10 years. The Congressional Budget Office says the $875 billion, 10-year plan would provide coverage to 31 million people who'd otherwise be uninsured. And it says the cost would be more than offset in savings from changes in Medicare and other programs. Republicans increased the debt by 11 trillion dollars and now refuse to actually reduce the debt. They lie that it's President Obama who created this mess. ]]>

<![CDATA[A great opportunity to hear this great advocate for protecting our environment and taking steps to become energy independent. Why does anyone object to becoming energy independent? Why would anyone not want to decrease air and water pollution? THe Right Wing assault on this issue defies common sense.]]>

<![CDATA[All they have is hate and fear. Never a positive thought.]]>

<![CDATA[Your words reveal much about your inner self. You speak in extreme absolutes ... "nothing" "never...". and those words are contextually consistent with your extreme view of others. This kind of rigid, black-and-white thinking sometimes indicates traumatization in childhood, which, when untreated as in your case, evolves into adulthood as a need to control one's surroundings. Thus such adult victims leave little room for dissenting and competing viewpoints, since such viewpoints pose a potential threat to the adult child's safety and well-being. Such viewpoints are rarely examined in depth upon their merits, and are normally categorized by the adult child in the extreme, along with its proponents. A life that does not accomodate others ..... becomes a lonely life, once parents, siblings and friends have been isolated and rejected for their own opinions and actions. Those who remain often feel oppressed and bullied, and the adult child is often seen as a bully, or an abuser. Ring a bell? That was just freakin' awesome. Kudos and ditto. ]]>

<![CDATA[Oh no you di'int!!!!]]>

<![CDATA[ <a href="http://www.nicholas.duke.edu/deanseries/gore" rel="nofollow">http://www.nicholas.duke.edu/deanseries/gore</a> tickets are free. i'm goin'. you goin too ? :) :) :) :) ya think there'll be a Q&A ????]]>

<![CDATA[You honestly do not have anything better to do than that?]]>

<![CDATA[ Praise the Lord and pass the folding, metal chairs. Stick around for a while .... because there's no such thing as "too many friends". Or "too few targets."]]>

<![CDATA[Renouce the dispiccable democrackkks and the repugnant republicannots! Send the best message you can send! We are NOT CONTROLLED BY TWO EVIL FORCES that call themselves political parties! REGISTER AS AN UNaffiliated VOTER in NC Today!!! Require ALL candidates for office be UNaffiliated from ANY 'political' party!]]>

<![CDATA[ Your words reveal much about your inner self. You speak in extreme absolutes ... "nothing" "never...". and those words are contextually consistent with your extreme view of others. This kind of rigid, black-and-white thinking sometimes indicates traumatization in childhood, which, when untreated as in your case, evolves into adulthood as a need to control one's surroundings. Thus such adult victims leave little room for dissenting and competing viewpoints, since such viewpoints pose a potential threat to the adult child's safety and well-being. Such viewpoints are rarely examined in depth upon their merits, and are normally categorized by the adult child in the extreme, along with its proponents. A life that does not accomodate others ..... becomes a lonely life, once parents, siblings and friends have been isolated and rejected for their own opinions and actions. Those who remain often feel oppressed and bullied, and the adult child is often seen as a bully, or an abuser. Ring a bell?]]>

<![CDATA[This board is the Jerry Springer Show of political discussion. Humorously sad. ]]>

<![CDATA[We need the BIGGEST PROTEST EVER demonstrated against this false LIAR and his perpetuation of a total HOAX on the people of the world! The best part will be if we can have him arrested for crimes against America, whatever they are (not sure where to begin!) Wont it be sweet to see him hauled in by the Sheriff? ROFLMAO! Come join the FRAY! Stand up for YOUR freedom not to be flumoxed by climate data LIES! BRING your BEST Signs!!!]]>

<![CDATA[Nothing but hate and fear. Nothing positive has ever come from the rightwingers. All they have to offer is childish name calling.]]>

<![CDATA[I wonder if you are being paid by the big insurance companies to spread that crap. People are dying RIGHT NOW because they cannot get insurance, or cannot afford the whopping deductables and coinsurance to get treated. Meanwhile fat cat health care gets richer and richer. Where is your plan to fix heathcare? Oh yea, that's right. You do not have one. These are some great questions you've presented. However, I have some questions I'd like to ask you: 1- People are dying RIGHT NOW because they cannot get insurance, or cannot afford the whopping deductables and coinsurance to get treated. If this is so, then why do the taxes to pay for the bill start upon it's approval, yet the coverage doesn't start until 2013? I thought this was to help people RIGHT NOW, yet it doesn't. Why is that? I thought the purpose of this bill was to help people RIGHT NOW. The government doesn't care about helping people RIGHT NOW. If they did, the coverage would start immediately. Unfortunately, only the taxes start immediately. It seems that the real quest here is to start taxing citizens RIGHT NOW for something they aren't receiving. That's taxation without representation to a degree. This is one of the reasons our country gave King George the boot and is completely unconstitutional. At any rate, I'd LOVE to hear your answer. 2- Where is your plan to fix heathcare? Oh yea, that's right. You do not have one. This statement may or may not be true, but I'll ask you a question: Why does the bill have to be passed RIGHT NOW if the coverage doesn't begin RIGHT NOW? If we can afford to wait for 3 years to be covered, then why can't we wait and hammer out another plan? Or better yet, why can't we delay this bill and take a close look at the government mandates that are choking our present system? The only plan you and the dems seem to have is ram it down everyone's throat so fast that nobody even knows what's in it. Nancy Pelosi said we'd have to wait to see what's in it after it's been passed. Does this really make sense to you? If so, why don't you come to work for me and we'll wait until you've worked the first week to find out what you'll be paid. Somehow I bet you're not for that plan. LOL! Another question: Why should a healthy young man or woman have to purchase insurance if they don't want to? I'll tell you why: To subsidise everyone else. Why does the state have to mandate coverage for abortions, Viagra, sex-change operations, etc.? All this does is inflate the cost of coverage for people that don't need or want those things. Why does a policy cost the same for a family of 3 as it does for a family of 8? Does that seem fair to you? Why can't a healthy person buy a policy that covers catastrophic illness and injury and then purchase coverage to cover pregnancy, cancer, abortions - Whatever they want coverage for? Wouldn't allowing the insurance companies to offer these types of coverage lower the costs for all? I bet it would. We could also allow coverage to be issued across state lines if the federal government would allow a la cart insurance coverages to be free of state and federal mandate, but it's hard for the government to control it if it's free of mandates, isn't it? This would allow for a more competitive environment among the insurance companies and benefit the consumer by giving them the power to shop by price. 3- Meanwhile fat cat health care gets richer and richer. And this is a bad thing because? Isn't it reasonable for any company to make a profit? I wonder to what extent state and federal coverage mandates affect the amount that insurance companies have to charge. Somehow I'll bet you're all for profit when it's yours! LOL! Oh, if this is a problem, then why does the bill mandate that everyone buy an insurance policy under penalty of the IRS if you don't do so? I thought this was a health care bill. It seems to me it's a "purchase an insurance policy" bill. Won't the bill you love so much cause the insurance company to benefit further? Oh, that's right - The penalties are lower than the cost of the government penalties, so most employers can save money by just paying the penalty. How convenient is that? You've fell for the class warfare put forth by the liberals hook, line and sinker. Why aren't you all pissed at Al Gore for potentially pocketing billions of dollars by perpetrating the Global Warming Hoax and then <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/business/energy-environment/03gore.html" rel="nofollow">investing in the technology</a>? Couldn't that money be given to the taxpayers to lower their carbon footprint? Oh, and I don't see ol' Al volunteering to give up his profits. Why is that? Why is it OK to fleece companies, yet prominent democrats aren't asked to give up their funds? I don't see the government going after George Soros or Arianna Huffington. They're fat cats that keep getting richer, yet that's somehow OK. You seem to be a lazy, whiny socialist that thinks that you deserve everything for free. Well I have news for you, Vladimir - There's no free lunch. Not for me, you, Illegal Aliens, welfare queens - NOBODY! Somebody has to pay for your "right." What idiots like you are lining up for is a socialist society, yet you're so stupid that you don't understand that socialism eliminates the middle class. Under socialism you only have 2 classes - The ruling class (None of the rules apply to them, like Gore telling you to ride a bike while he uses private jets and 6 limos) and the servant class (people under the subjugation of the ruling class). I have bad news for you - You'd not be able to bitch and moan if you were a member of the servant class because you'd have given up your FREEDOM to do so so you could have your health care. Think abut it. ]]>

<![CDATA[ his wild dogs from ACORN to bus themselves over to a meeting of insurance company executives and demand their arrest. Just like they all did with AIG executives. More street theater from the left. More staged "guerilla theater" from the radicals. LOL. If your bizarre machinations dont work comrades, you certainly have no cushion of credibility to fall back on. So make certain the greasepaint is perfect. LOL]]>

<![CDATA[ Firstly, it is the law in this country that EVERYONE must be treated in an emergency room. NO ONE IS TURNED AWAY. Secondly, the much ballyhooed figure of 45000 deaths per year due to lack of insurance was arrived at this way: A random sample was taken in 1986, the uninsured were noted, and the status of the uninsured re-examined recently. If a member of the sample group was deceased, and did not have insurance in 1986, it was assumed that *he never had insurance and further that he died due to the lack of insurance." Preposterous? Who would draw such conclusions from such a study? Well, you marxists would. Look at Global Warming Hoax. Everything you assholes say turns about to be a lie. You guys cant produce good, consistent data when you have twenty years to make it up. You all must have gone to public school. There are many good ideas to reform health care coverage, at a cost that provides insurance for those who want it and need. But you guys dont want to hear about it because YOUR plan bankrupts the country, and drags it into marxism. Up or down vote? So be it. Its a litmus test, and it will be very clear to us who has to go. The sooner the better. ]]>

<![CDATA[ Whats The Happy Event? Too early to be commencement. How can I get a ticket? The thought of heckling Gore at Duke ..... my gawd ...... i feel this chill running up my leg.]]>

<![CDATA[I wonder if you are being paid by the big insurance companies to spread that crap. People are dying RIGHT NOW because they cannot get insurance, or cannot afford the whopping deductables and coinsurance to get treated. Meanwhile fat cat health care gets richer and richer. Where is your plan to fix heathcare? Oh yea, that's right. You do not have one. ]]>

<![CDATA[Obama is calling for a final �50 plus 1� vote in "the next few weeks." And he wants citizens to "make their voice heard." After spewing the longest string of lies we have heard to date on health care reform, President Obama threw down the grassroots gauntlet: "I urge every American who supports this reform to make their voice heard. Make your voice heard." Let Obama and Congress hear from EVERY American � whether they support healthcare reform or OPPOSE it!! What is stated in the bills presently in the Senate and House versions, is NOT what the majority of Americans want. The Senate and House bills were put together and �agreed upon� by the Dems as a result of the many �kickbacks� and �sweetheart deals� which many of our elected officials would receive by voting �Yea�. The American people are neither blind nor stupid. Are you aware that the CBO report refutes the widely disseminated figure of 40 million uninsured; saying the number of Americans without health insurance for an entire year is more likely to be between 21 million and 31 million. How many in this range of uninsured do you think are counted as �illegal immigrants�? To be honest, it may very well be the majority of those who are uninsured. Again, for this small number of people, our government wants to overhaul the entire health care system of 303,000,000+ American citizens, to accommodate a few million who are not even legally eligible or those who simply CHOOSE NOT to have health care coverage; but will still be fined/taxed!! Each taxpayer will be responsible to pay taxes (over an approximate 10-year period) for an amount of $1 TRILLION+ for this bill alone! Note however, that NO ONE will be able to reap any of the so-called �benefits� for 2 to 5 years to come. What is wrong with this picture? Everyone CAN and MUST get involved, because quite frankly healthcare reform (as it stands now) is unconstitutional! **(See below) Please join over ONE MILLION people who have already signed our petition to Congress @ <a href="http://www.freeourhealthcarenow.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.freeourhealthcarenow.com/</a> and <a href="http://www.freedomworks.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.freedomworks.org/</a> . Also, contact all of the �swing vote� Democrats who can stop this legislation from passing at <a href="http://www.repealthebill.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.repealthebill.org/</a> . Keep your health care choices, decisions and care in YOUR hands, not in the hands of a government-run �health committee�. Also, take into consideration that the bill presently in the Senate will cut $800 BILLION from Medicare. With the government NOT increasing Social Security payments this year, how will YOU pay for your parents or elderly family member�s health needs under Medicare?? Please call, fax or e-mail your Reps & Senators and tell them to vote �NO� on any government-run healthcare reform bill as now on the table: <a href="http://www.senate.gov/" rel="nofollow">http://www.senate.gov/</a> ; <a href="http://www.house.gov/" rel="nofollow">http://www.house.gov/</a> ; <a href="http://www.emailthepresident.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.emailthepresident.com/</a> or <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov" rel="nofollow">http://www.whitehouse.gov</a>. . Together we, as Americans, can and MUST make a difference!! Please forward this information to everyone you know who believes that our ever-growing government should stay out of America�s healthcare needs. **Amendment 28 � Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators and/or Representatives, and Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and/or Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States. Again, it is illegal for our government to force ANY citizen to purchase any product, such as health insurance; or the government will impose fines/taxes if you choose not to have health insurance.]]>

<![CDATA[the idiots at DUKE 'environmental whacko screwl' have decided to bring the great LIAR and FLEECER to our midst! What BETTER time than to show our anger by facilitating handcuffing him and hauling him to JAIL? Its Time for algore to serve some time for all the LIES and STOLEN MONEY! What are the steps for causing a CITIZENS ARREST of algore? anybody?]]>

<![CDATA[Tyranny - I do not think it means what you think it means. <img src="http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2009/12/27/633975510899212475-Inconceivable.jpg">]]>

<![CDATA[I am right. So there. You can delete this forum now. We've come to an understanding. Your opinions are worthless.]]>

<![CDATA[Like I said, if an insurance company has broken the law, then the law should deal with them. The insurance commissioner of that state should be held accoutable for injustices against the consumers. Change/modify the law to fix/repair deficiencies when necessary. Otherwise, back the truck up, Jack! A government takeover of the heathcare sytem is tyranny! End of discussion.]]>

<![CDATA[-- In June 2008, Robin Beaton, a retired nurse from Waxahachie, Texas, found out she had breast cancer and needed a double mastectomy. Two days before her surgery, her insurance company, Blue Cross, flagged her chart and told the hospital they wouldn't allow the procedure to go forward until they finished an examination of five years of her medical history -- which could take three months. It turned out that a month before the cancer diagnosis, Beaton had gone to a dermatologist for acne treatment, and Blue Cross incorrectly interpreted a word on her chart to mean that the acne was precancerous. Not long into the investigation, the insurer canceled her policy. Beaton, they said, had listed her weight incorrectly when she bought it, and had also failed to disclose that she'd once taken medicine for a heart condition -- which she hadn't been taking at the time she filled out the application. By October, thanks to an intervention from her member of Congress, Blue Cross reinstated Beaton's insurance coverage. But the tumor she had removed had grown 2 centimeters in the meantime, and she had to have her lymph nodes removed as well as her breasts amputated because of the delay. -- In October 2008, Michael Napientak, a doorman from Clarendon Hills, Ill., went to the hospital for surgery to relieve agonizing back pain. His wife's employer's insurance provider, a subsidiary of UnitedHealthCare, had issued a pre-authorization for the operation. The operation went well. But in April, the insurer started sending notices that it wouldn't pay for the surgery, after all; the family, not the insurance provider, would be on the hook for the $148,000 the hospital charged for the procedure. Pre-authorization, the insurance company explained, didn't necessarily guarantee payment on a claim would be forthcoming. The company offered shifting explanations for why it wouldn't pay -- first, demanding proof that Napientak had tried less expensive measures to relieve his pain, and then, when he provided it, insisting that it lacked documentation for why the surgery was medically necessary. Napientak's wife, Sandie, asked her boss to help out, but with no luck. Fortunately for the Napientaks, they were able to attract the attention of a Chicago Tribune columnist before they had to figure out how to pay the six-figure bill -- once the newspaper started asking questions, the insurer suddenly decided, "based on additional information submitted," to cover the tab, after all. -- David Denney was less than a year old when he was diagnosed in 1995 with glutaric acidemia Type 1, a rare blood disorder that left him severely brain damaged and unable to eat, walk or speak without assistance. For more than a decade, Blue Cross of California -- his parents' insurance company -- paid the $1,200 weekly cost to have a nurse care for him, giving him exercise and administering anti-seizure medication. But in March 2006, Blue Cross told the Denney family their claims had exceeded the annual cost limit for his care. When they wrote back, objecting and pointing out that their annual limit was higher, the company changed its mind -- about the reason for the denial. The nurse's services weren't medically necessary, the insurers said. His family sued, and the case went to arbitration, as their policy allowed. California taxpayers, meanwhile, got stuck with the bill -- after years of paying their own premiums, the Denney family went on Medi-Cal, the state's Medicaid system. -- Patricia Reilling opened an art gallery in Louisville, Ky., in 1987, and three years later took out an insurance policy for herself and her employees. Her insurance provider, Anthem Health Plans of Kentucky, wrote to her this June, telling her it was canceling her coverage -- a few days after it sent her a different letter detailing the rates to renew for another year and billing her for July. Reilling thinks she knows the reason for the cutoff, though -- she was diagnosed with breast cancer in March 2008. That kicked off a year-long battle with Anthem. First the company refused to pay for an MRI to locate the tumors, saying her family medical history didn't indicate she was likely to have cancer. Eventually, it approved the MRI, but only after she'd undergone an additional, painful biopsy. Her doctor removed both of her breasts in April 2008. In December, she went in for reconstructive plastic surgery -- and contracted a case of MRSA, an invasive infection. In January of this year, Reilling underwent two more surgeries to deal with the MRSA infection, and she's likely to require another operation to help fix all the damage. The monthly bill for her prescription medicines -- which she says are mostly generics -- is $2,000; the doctors treating her for the MRSA infection want $280 for each appointment, now that she's lost her insurance coverage. When she appealed the decision to cancel her policy, asking if she could keep paying the premium and continue coverage until her current course of treatment ends, the insurers wrote back with yet another denial. But they did say they hoped her health improved.]]>

<![CDATA[NO, there are no such things as 'death panels'. If an insurance company has broken the law, then the law will deal with them. A government takeover of private industry in unconstitutional and outright tyranny!]]>

<![CDATA[A Libertarian�s View of The Issues By: Andrew the Electrician March 11, 2010 Abortion: The 5th Amendment of the Bill of Rights of the Constitution says that �No person�,nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;�� This means ALL Americans have that right. When a doctor performs an abortion, it stops a beating human heart in the name of selfishness. Mr. Obama claimed that 45,000 people die each year from a lack of health insurance and used this to sell his takeover. The CDC reported 820,151 abortions were performed in 2005. Why doesn't Mr. Obama cry out over that horrendous number? Furthermore, abortion promotes sexual irresponsibility and will never have a good outcome in society. To summarize; abortion is murder of an innocent, defenseless human life and should be a crime. As far as the mother�s right to choose; she has that right until her choice infringes on someone else�s rights, especially the innocent and defenseless. Agriculture: The government has way too much control in this area. If the government gets out of the way local farmers will thrive again. Stop the subsidies. Let the farmers farm their own land the way they want to. Budget: Spending over the last 40 years, and the social programs, has bankrupted this great country. The politicians on BOTH sides have been extremely irresponsible with our Treasury. Government shall not spend more than it takes in. (Fiscal Responsibility) I would go a step further and say that government should be required to have a surplus of at least 1/3 of the GDP. Campaign Finance: The law shall be made to provide the sole influence on any servant of the people, in any branch of government, are the people themselves as stated in the Constitution. Lobbyists and special interests shall not be allowed to influence legislation under any circumstance. Congressional Term Limits: No representative or senator in congress shall serve more than 2 terms. This will end the �Washington Elite� mentality and congress will better serve the will of the people, not the special interest and lobbyist. Economy: America is a Free Market Economy. There is too much government involvement and it has crippled the system. The �handcuffs� shall be removed in order for our system to thrive once more. It has been more than 100 years since our free market has truly been free. It shall be free again or We The People�s Liberty is truly dead. It isn�t a coincidence that 100 years ago we were 70% manufacturing and 30% consumers. Now, the opposite is fact. We are 70% consumers and 30% manufacturing. No nation can survive under this economic condition. To permanently repair the economy, government shall get out of the way for manufacturing to be restored. Education: This is another area where the Federal government has too much involvement. In being so involved, they have control of the indoctrination of our children. The Federal government shall not have such control of our children. It shall be governed at the county level, with minimum state standards, according to the will people residing in that county. This will require the people in each county to become involved and exponentially raise the quality of learning. Energy: Nuclear energy is the most cost efficient and clean source of energy and should be explored further. We should get government out of the way and work toward energy independence from foreign sources. The United States of America shall be an energy sovereign nation. Environment: The environment shall be preserved at the state/local level, not the federal level. Stop the spending. Ethics: The politicians who have been in Washington over the last 40 years, with the exception of a few, have been a travesty. They have run this great country into the ground. It�s time to throw the bums out and replace them with people with honor and integrity who will restore this great Republic. Those who have broken the law shall be held to the highest letter of the law. No quarter/mercy shall be given. Foreign Affairs: Get our military heroes out of ALL foreign lands and bring them home to provide for the common defense of our shores. Increase funding to the CIA and NSA to prevent terror attacks and become proactive. Increase diplomatic relations to work toward economic recovery. Since WWII America has advanced democracy through various methods including war. This shall not be the case any longer. The best way to advance freedom in the world is by example. Fix our country first, and the world will follow suit. Gay Marriage: The 5th Amendment of the Bill of Rights of the Constitution says that �No person�,nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;�� This means ALL Americans have that right. Even though I am not gay, I believe the Bill of Rights of the Constitution, that I love and respect, gives them the same rights as me! However, when they start forcing their beliefs on me and my children, they cross the line thereby infringing on my and my children�s rights. The same can be said about my beliefs. I will not force my beliefs on them. Gun Control: �If guns kill people, then I�m going to blame all my misspelled words on my pencil!�-Larry the Cable Guy. This is funny, but true. The 2nd amendment has been trampled on by liberals over the last 40 years. All legislation at the federal, state and local levels that has been made regarding gun control is unconstitutional and shall be repealed and/or void. The second amendment shall be upheld. If someone shoots another person in cold blood, and has no other convictions, the minimum sentence is 15 to life. That means they will be eligible for release in 12 years (80% rule). If the punishment is changed to a real life sentence with no chance of release, or even death, then criminals will definitely think twice before pulling the trigger. It's just common sense. Don't control the gun, deter the thoughts that lead to violence. Gun control has not worked. Healthcare: It is a choice to purchase health insurance, not a right. Government shall not takeover, or compete against, our free market. A government takeover of the private sector is tyranny and violates the Constitution! There are many great ideas that have been proposed to reform the free market healthcare industry. Those options should be implemented, not governmental tyranny with oppressive control. Homeland Security: Shall be required to secure our land borders and travel borders against foreign threats and intruders. Nothing more. National Defense: The constitution is clear on this issue. We have the greatest military in the world and it needs to stay that way. Our military shall not be deployed unless congress declares war. End of discussion. Social Security: It�s no secret, the system is grossly broken. Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security are all bankrupt. The baby boomers will start collecting soon. That means the system will be further bankrupt. Therefore, from this year forward, any person under the age of 30 will no longer be subject to the Social Security system and/or the taxes associated with it. Persons with incapacitating disabilities and the elderly will keep their benefits. Persons over the age of 30 shall now be allowed to save money for retirement, and other social issues, tax free. States Rights: The 10th Amendment shall be restored. Taxation: The current �progressive� tax system is grossly flawed and easily abused. A new �conservative� tax system shall be implemented for 2012. It includes a tax on all goods sold. The conservative tax will be tiered as not to �over tax� expensive goods. The conservative tax revenue generated shall be equal to, or greater than, the amount needed for fiscal responsibility to be achieved and/or surpassed. A surplus of 1/3 of the GDP shall be required for emergencies. Veteran�s Affairs: They are our military heroes. They have protected our Constitutional freedoms. They should be treated accordingly. All effort shall be made to honor their sacrifice. Thank you for listening, Andrew the Electrician]]>

<![CDATA[So you said you read the Health Care Reform Bill. Then you are opposed to eliminating the provision that prevents insurance companies from not insuring people, including infants, that have a pre exisiting condition and/or dropping people when they begin to submit claims.]]>

<![CDATA[ You are full of shit. I dont know whether this crap belongs on the Art Bell Show, or in a North Korean re-education camp.]]>

<![CDATA[You cant outlaw a political party. The First Ammendment guarantees freedom of assembly. This is why Nazis can hold rallies and marches throughout the State of Illinois. Decent Americans have already deserted the party. They may yet hold to liberalism, with which I simply disagree, but they have rejected the extreme marxist and radical positions assumed by the Administration. At this point, its safe to say that Americans, by a significant majority, feel as though they have stepped through the Looking Glass (and want badly to step back out.) Mainstream network news says otherwise, of course, but network news is also a BIG loser in all of this. CBS and ABC are cutting back, closing bureaus, laying off staff. They cant generate revenue for the company, because they are losing viewers every single day. Yet the talking heads - mathews, oberman, couric, et al. - continue to espouse this propaganda, recycling it all to a fifth-grade level. They do this because that is what they are paid to do, and their careers are too heavily invested in past lies for them to start telling the truth now. At this point, they can only be fired, and replaced with a fresh face, but the networks havent cultivated any fresh faces that can credibly reverse course, and start broadcasting the truth. Even if a network was so inclined, and I've seen little evidence of THAT. So the bottom line is there's a lot of pro-obama noise, a lot of pro-obama visuals and photo-ops, a lot of pro-obama forum posts and talk-radio callers (relatively, anyways), BUT .... the polling numbers arent "there" anymore. Not in ANY poll. Obama just hit a new, all-time low in the Rasmussen poll. He's around -21, or somewhere near there. The dems have created a mess of the economy, AND of their own legislative process. So much so that not only are they losing seats, but many are simply retiring at the end of their terms. And wouldnt you? Given, for example, that you are BOTH a liberal Democrat AND an American, would YOU want any part of what Obama has brought to Washington? This has to be cleaned up in November. We all have to vote. Dont worry about outlawing the Democratic party. They've already destroyed the value of their market brand.]]>

<![CDATA[ Yes, she did. I've been monitoring her from the start, she's kept a pretty low profile through all of this, but she seems to be a wild-eyed liberal at heart. She's a freshman senator, so we're stuck with her for a while, unless she draws the rage of rahm emmanuel of course. She appeared on WPTF a couple of months ago, and re-assured the listening audience that she would NOT vote for any bill which wasnt "deficit neutral," whatever THAT means to HER. "And," she immediately added, "President Obama has said the bill is deficit neutral." You get the picture. I wonder, on occasion, how many of our representatives ARE in fact, flat-out intimidated by the Obama administration. Obama acorns have forced their way into homes, assaulted reporters, promoted prostitution, and advised on tax evasion strategies. Obama advisers have assaulted reporters. Rahm Emmanuel intimidated Massa, and who knows who else. These people are southside thugs from the City of Chicago. If they have any limits whatsoever, I'd like to know what they are, and what evidence exists to support that. Hagan and my rep, Brad Miller, will be back - PRESUMABLY - for the Congressional break. During the break last august, Miller cancelled his appearances, claiming that someone had threatened his life. I requested his schedule no less than four times that month, and never got a response from his office. As far as I know, he made two, unannounced appearances - one "town hall" of some sort, another at a senior citizens gathering. Your guess is as good as mine. But I know this: this healthcare bill WILL be killed, sooner or later, and this bill is a litmus test for me. Its up to Hagan and Miller to prove that they have some redeeming quality which entitles them to hold office. If they continue to back this thing, the electorate will never forget it. I wont allow the electorate to forget it.]]>

<![CDATA[the NC democrat party has outlived their effectiveness into total corruption. they MUST be STOPPED, OUTLAWED, SHAMED, RUN out of TOWN... how can they be led by such a woosie presidunce??? get yourselves AWAY from this heinous party of SLAVERY!]]>

<![CDATA[ ok. Sooooo ..... "Lets pass Obamacare." Right? Marxist organizers have come to raleigh. Lefties are sneaking onto talk radio, to spread their message. Forums such as this have seen an increase in whacko postings, but you guys just dont have the numbers - or the facts - to dominate a bulletin board like you did leading up to the election. The cats out of the bag, and you guys are finished. We The People have recieved the message, loud and clear. Politics-as-usual was bad enough. But you libs are over-the-top, and America is, to a man, sick of leftist lies, distortion, and marxist economic policies. Good luck to y'all following the election in November. We'll take it from there, try not to break anything TOO badly in the meantime. (Where are you posting from, anyway? Oakland? San Francisco?)]]>

<![CDATA[the only question that is allowable is 'How many people live full time at this residence?' its the only one you need to answer...]]>

<![CDATA[In his own words: "On Friday night, I called my wife and I said, 'Brooke, I am not coming home this weekend. I will call you on Monday. Tonight, I want you to go to the ATM machine, and I want you to draw out everything it will let you take. And I want you to tomorrow, and I want you to go Sunday.' I was convinced on Friday night that if you put a plastic card in an ATM machine the last thing you were going to get was cash." Burr added, "I think it is safe to say the economy has not rebounded. If anything, we have gone deeper into what economists call 'recession.' I would tell you it's not a recession. I would define this as a depression." That idiot shouldn't even be allowed to tour the Senate. This is one incumbent who needs to go!]]>

<![CDATA[Christopher Walken: How to complete a census <a href="http://farmwars.info/?p=2568" rel="nofollow">http://farmwars.info/?p=2568</a>]]>

<![CDATA[<a href="http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/calling_all_rebels_20100308/" rel="nofollow">http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/calling_all_rebels_20100308/</a> Calling All Rebels By Chris Hedges There are no constraints left to halt America�s slide into a totalitarian capitalism. Electoral politics are a sham. The media have been debased and defanged by corporate owners. The working class has been impoverished and is now being plunged into profound despair. The legal system has been corrupted to serve corporate interests. Popular institutions, from labor unions to political parties, have been destroyed or emasculated by corporate power. And any form of protest, no matter how tepid, is blocked by an internal security apparatus that is starting to rival that of the East German secret police. The mounting anger and hatred, coursing through the bloodstream of the body politic, make violence and counter-violence inevitable. Brace yourself. The American empire is over. And the descent is going to be horrifying. Those singled out as internal enemies will include people of color, immigrants, gays, intellectuals, feminists, Jews, Muslims, union leaders and those defined as �liberals.� They will be condemned as anti-American and blamed for our decline. The economic collapse, which remains mysterious and enigmatic to most Americans, will be pinned by demagogues and hatemongers on these hapless scapegoats. And the random acts of violence, which are already leaping up around the fringes of American society, will justify harsh measures of internal control that will snuff out the final vestiges of our democracy. The corporate forces that destroyed the country will use the information systems they control to mask their culpability. The old game of blaming the weak and the marginal, a staple of despotic regimes, will empower the dark undercurrents of sadism and violence within American society and deflect attention from the corporate vampires that have drained the blood of the country. <a href="http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/calling_all_rebels_20100308/" rel="nofollow">http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/calling_all_rebels_20100308/</a>]]>

<![CDATA[You heard that right! Kay Hagan voted FOR Obama's marxist takeover... The Honorable Richard Burr voted NO! Thank you for watching out for us, sir! You are a great American! Mrs. Hagan, you have been measured and found wanting. Your days in office are now numbered. Your rule has come to an end. Never again will you represent We The People of NC.]]>

<![CDATA[Re:Obama Hates FISH ! - Well the main point is that we the "usa" is bowing to "United Nations-guided principles" once again. Is that not how we got into the iraq war in the first place over U.N. Regulation. <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20100309/ts_csm/286232" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20100309/ts_csm/286232</a> "expand a type of zoning to coastal and even some inland waters." me- So when do we take a stand. This means nothing to you and let it go. your a joke. Iraq has already broken UN resolution: U.S.-Tuesday, November 19, 2002 <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2002/11/19/iraq_breach021119.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2002/11/19/iraq_breach021119.html</a> ]]>

<![CDATA[Israel was established by the UN by partitioning the occupied land known as Palestine. Israel was given without consent of the Palestinians 52% of the land. Since 1947 Israeli governments have used repression, oppression , terrorism and tyranny to expel the Palestinians from the lands on which they had lived for centuries. Today Israel occupies more than 78% of this territory and the UN has repeatedly condemned their aggression and violence towards the indigenous population. Finally we have another President courageous enough to stand up to the very powerful Israeli Lobby that virtually controls the U.S. Congress and the media and demand an end to these horrific acts and expansionism. Israel, as usual, spits in the face of world opinion and continues to enrage the Arab peoples arounds the world by once again expanding settlements and obstructioning any attempt to bring peace to this area. Israeli propagandists will respond with the usual "you must be antisemitic" to oppose our will to dominate and subjugate Palestine.]]>

<![CDATA[I HAVE . That's how i know it sucks. Government Health Care Bill H.R.3200 <a href="http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h3200ih.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h3200ih.pdf</a> Government Health Care Bill H.R.3200 <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcBaSP31Be8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcBaSP31Be8</a> ]]>

<![CDATA[(yawn.) oh well ..... Jihad Jane met Barack Hussein while in jail for crimes without name. As they sat down to shit he threw a grand fit as he stared at the foul smelling pit. For he knew, with a tear, as he positioned his rear, that reid and pulosi were here. 'Cuz there's no global warming, 'twas a false warning, yet methane brings shit-flies a-swarming. ]]>

<![CDATA[Bush sed "People and fish can co-exist together".]]>

<![CDATA["The only people who know what is in these bills are the lobbyists who write them." Good point. Why not read up on what you are being programmed to whine about.]]>

<![CDATA[QUOTE You use unfounded most likely fictional history-the "Judeo-Christian Bible" to create an argument for allowing Israel ...... ENDQUOTE In partitioning, the United Nations - the world-governing body - returned land to aboriginal people. It is time for all the nations of the world to respect the solemn decision of the world's citizens, and renounce imperialistic genocide. All world residents are entitled to be free of tyranny, and, when exposed to tyranny, have the right to take the steps necessary to defend themselves. Nothing fictitious or unfounded about that. ]]>

<![CDATA[ US can detain anyone it sees fit, for life <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjWbfh3JBV8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjWbfh3JBV8</a>]]>

<![CDATA["We have to pass the health care bill so that you can find out what is in it." Pelosi We have to pass the health care bill so that you can find out what is in it." That unfortunately is the sad state of affairs, not just with healthcare, but with virtually any bill passed by Congress. The only people who know what is in these bills are the lobbyists who write them. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV-05TLiiLU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV-05TLiiLU</a>]]>

<![CDATA[<a href="http://www.zerohedge.com/article/state-tax-revenues-plummet-87-billion-biggest-year-over-year-decline-history-record-state-ta" rel="nofollow">http://www.zerohedge.com/article/state-tax-revenues-plummet-87-billion-biggest-year-over-year-decline-history-record-state-ta</a> The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities has released a report "State Tax Changes in Response to the Recession" in which the center notes that "national recession has had such a devastating effect on state finances that states took in $87 billion less in tax revenue from October 2008 through September 2009 than they collected in the previous 12 months. This 11 percent decline, the steepest on record, resulted from the impact on tax collections of lost jobs, reduced wages, and lowered economic activity." And here we are, missing the forest for the Greek tree, and discussing evil CDS speculators' role in Greece barely able to make a �5 billion bond auction, when we should be all over the evil Municipal CDS speculators wreaking havoc in our own back yard. And it actually gets worse: as we have pointed out, states are now running on fiscal fumes, as record unemployment insurance claims bleed the vast majority of state not only dry, but well in credit to the Federal government. "At the same time, the recession has driven up the number of people needing various state services. This, along with the requirement that states have balanced budgets, has increased the pressure on states to deal with the unprecedented revenue shortfalls in a variety of ways. Nearly all states have cut spending. In addition, most have opted for a balanced approach that includes revenue."]]>

<![CDATA[Report: HAMP Modification Conversion Rate at about 33% <a href="http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2010/03/report-hamp-modification-conversion.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2010/03/report-hamp-modification-conversion.html</a> From Shahien Nasiripour at the Huffington Post: Obama Foreclosure-Prevention Plan Lagging, New Data Shows Only about a third of the homeowners who have successfully completed the trial period of the Obama administration's mortgage modification program have been offered permanent relief, according to new federal data obtained by the Huffington Post. The conversion rate -- about 33 percent -- is woefully short of what the Treasury Department had forecast. ... The new data was contained in a series of answers by Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner to questions posed by Neiman and his colleagues on COP, including Harvard Law professor and bailout watchdog Elizabeth Warren. "As of the end of January there were over 116,000 permanent modifications and over 67,000 permanent modifications pending final approval," Geithner wrote in his letter, which the panel received last week. "This group of approximately 180,000 permanent and pending permanent modifications represents about a third of the population of total modifications who have completed the trial modification and are at a point in the process where they are able to convert to permanent." No real surprise - there is much more in the article including some interesting comments about a possible principal reduction program. The HAMP report for February will probably be released late next week, and the numbers will be closely scrutinized. ]]>

<![CDATA[<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20100309/ts_csm/286232" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20100309/ts_csm/286232</a> Atlanta � The Obama administration has proposed using United Nations-guided principles to expand a type of zoning to coastal and even some inland waters. That�s raising concerns among fishermen that their favorite fishing holes may soon be off-limits for bait-casting. In the battle of incremental change that epitomizes the American conservation movement, many weekend anglers fear that the Obama administration�s promise to �fundamentally change� water management in the US will erode what they call the public�s �right to fish,� in turn creating economic losses for the $82 billion recreational fishing industry and a further deterioration of the American outdoorsman�s legacy. Proponents say the Interagency Ocean Policy Task Force established by President Obama last June will ultimately benefit the fishing public by managing ecosystems in their entirety rather than by individual uses such as fishing, shipping, or oil exploration. �It�s not an environmentalist manifesto,� says Larry Crowder, a marine biologist at Duke University in North Carolina. �It�s multiple-use planning for the environment, and making sure various uses � are sustainable.� (Amateur outdoorsmen have been fighting for their rights for years, as the Monitor reports here.) <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20100309/ts_csm/286232" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20100309/ts_csm/286232</a> <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/saltwater/news/story?id=4975762" rel="nofollow">http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/saltwater/news/story?id=4975762</a> This is a column from Robert Montgomery for ESPN Outdoors. As a Senior Writer for BASS Publications, Montgomery has written about conservation, environment, and access issues for more than two decades. It's part of a series of articles from Montgomery on the issue. The Obama administration will accept NO MORE public input for a federal strategy that could prohibit U.S. citizens from fishing some of the nation's oceans, coastal areas, Great Lakes, and even inland waters. <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/saltwater/news/story?id=4975762" rel="nofollow">http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/saltwater/news/story?id=4975762</a> Why did this get flagged ? and who? anyone? anyone? ]]>

<![CDATA[You use unfounded most likely fictional history-the "Judeo-Christian Bible" to create an argument for allowing Israel to commit brutal murder, imprisonment, starvation, torture and apartheid subjugation to expand their borders beyond those imposed on Palestinians by the UN in 1947. The U.S. uses our taxes in billions of dollars each year to support these aggregious acts against the Palestinian people and other Arab populations in Syria and Lebanon. Identify one contribution to the world that Israel has made to earn this support. Remember Rachel Corrie: a 23 year old peace activist who was killed on March 16, 2003 when she was crushed intentionally by an Israeli bulldozer on the Gaza Strip. ]]>

<![CDATA[I am on week 10. I have 16 weeks left to sit at home. Do I like this? HECK NO. But here is why I cannot find work. Employers hire the convicted felon LAST. I have a non violent felony from 1993. I lost my job because of the economy, but see the world has changed dramatically since 9/11. Now every F#$king job application asks 'have you EVER been convicted of a felony?' And they ask this question BEFORE they let you put your work history, or education. What does that say?? SH#T, in the 1990's this question was worded 'Have you ever been convicted of a felony in the last 7 years?' I came very close to getting a job this week. But the HR department told the hiring manager NO FELONS in the workplace. Can you believe that? So I am very upset right now. I feel like not job hunting for a few weeks and just watch TV, why tax payers foot my bill!!! $498.00 a week. I know that is the wrong attitude folks, but I paid my debt to society when I served probation for three years and paid a fine. I have not even had a F#$king parking ticket since the 1980's. I drive the speed limit, while idiots speed right on past me. I am not who I was 19 years ago, but I feel like I am being treated the same as a repeat offender, or someone who just got out of jail. I have a four year college degree. Society is encouraging recidivism by not allowing ex offenders the equal opportunity of employment. The convicted felon is like the black man of the 1970's. It is so easy to pitch the job application of someone willing to work hard. ]]>

<![CDATA[Hate and fear. Nothing constructive.]]>

<![CDATA[eom.]]>

<![CDATA[Speak for yourself and stop cluttering this forum with the same ole humm drum line. Seems there is alot of name calling on both sides-oh I forgot-you dim dems think you are flawless and perfect. Ye who is without sin throw the first stone!]]>

<![CDATA[Nothing but hate and fear. No logic. No purpose. Nothing constructive. Just name calling and fabrication. And they wonder why no one takes them serious. ]]>

<![CDATA[I would like to go on record and make a prediction; The sleeping giant (Conservative Christians) will be awakened this year. Woe to the marxist oppressors who obstruct and destruct. Woe to the politicians who seek to take our Liberty from us. Andrew the Electrician]]>

<![CDATA[I would say that he is better than a lefty-Oblame-a worshipping Socialist! Slamm some kool-aid and light a candle for your divine one-his days are numbered-jerk-o! You judgemental putz!]]>

<![CDATA[The internet is NOT a right! It is a privilege. It all comes down to a simple concept; choice. We have a choice to purchase a computer. It isn't a right to own one. The same principle applies to the internet. We have a choice to be online, or not. -THE HANDOUTS NEED TO STOP! -IT IS THE HANDOUTS AND SOCIAL PROGRAMS THAT HAVE BANKRUPTED THIS GREAT COUNTRY! -SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE, AND MEDICAID ARE NOW OPERATING IN THE RED (in debt) THE BABY BOOMERS ARE GOING TO START COLLECTING SOON. WHAT THEN? THE SOCIAL PROGRAMS HAVE FAILED MISERABLY! WHY COMPOUND THE PROBLEM BY ADDING MORE FISCAL IRRESPONSIBILITY? -IT IS THE LIBERAL/SOCIALIST AGENDA THAT IS THE DIRECT CAUSE OF THE DECLINE OF SOCIETY AND DECAY OF MORALS IN AMERICA! It is not the government's responsibility to provide for me, I must provide for myself. The entitlement programs over the last 100 years have made Americans fat, lazy, and spoiled. We are the only nation on Earth where the poor are fat. What happend to hard work, honor and integrity? The entitlement programs need to end or America will not survive. The Liberal/Socialist agenda is the true oppressive regime. They have bullied conservatives and forced their beliefs on us, and our kids for the last 40 years. I think I speak for everyone when I say that we have had enough! Like the post said yesterday; "Throw the bums out of Washington!" Thank you for listening, Andrew the Electrician]]>

<![CDATA[Tater is a wingnut Beck worshipper too. LMAO ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Tater is your daddy, punk. He'd send you back to your mommy crying. ]]>

<![CDATA[You far-left stooge. My guess is you are some 20-something college-boy parroting The Party Line. Here's non-Progressive history: 1) for you hairless porsche-driving "radicals" who havent read the bible as a mere historical document, the late-breaking news is that Israel originally ruled the area up to 2000 years ago. The country was then conquered, and ceased to exist. When adolph and his National Socialist Party (Nazis) lost THEIR war of aggression against the allies, homeless jews returned to the region, which was then administered by the British. Faced again with extermination - this time "administrative extermination", as paperless and homeless refugees - the jews engaged in a violent campaign to re-establish Israel, which was in fact formally re-established by your god-almighty-horsehit one-world governing body known as the United Nations. In a word, the indigenous and aboriginal population triumphed over centuries of world oppression. 2) The rag-heads never accepted the partitioning of the land, and fail to recognize Israel - and its right to exist - to this very day. Two serious wars have ensued, both involving Egypt. Egypt was led by Gamel Abdul Nasser during the 1967 war, and was heavily - HEAVILY - backed by the then-commie Soviet Union, who had massively armed Nasser with Soviet tanks, for the express purpose of invading Israel, which Nasser subsequently undertook, only to learn that armored columns are subordinat to superior air power, which Israel had in abundance. This lesson was taught again in 1973, following the surprise attack by Egypt on Yon Kippur. The Six Day War and the Yom Kippur War involved Israels immediate neighbors Syria and Egypt. As a result of these wars of aggression perpetrated against a nation chartered by the United Nations, initiated by aggressors who fail to recognize the validity of the charter by this "one-world governing body", Israel occupied the Sinai desert between Israel and Egypt, and the Golan Heights overlooking Damascus, Syria. Israel does not, as a matter of history and fact, engage in imperialist wars of aggression. Sorry, whatever you've been taught just isnt true. They annex pursuant to victory. Annexation further secures a State that must win EVERY war in order to survive. The national policy can be summarized as "Start a war, pay a price." Israel, for all of its faults, remains a good friend and a reliable ally of the United States in the mideast. Those who wish to weaken US influence in the mideast will seek to weaken the relationship between the US and Israel. whatever they need to secure their borders is fine with me. Including some rag-head, Muslim terrorist ghettos in East Jerusalem. And no, I am NOT a jew. But you nazis, commies, and progressives can feel welcome to call me "jew lover." The annals of history resound with echoes of THAT epithet. Fuck the Obama Muslim agenda. ]]>

<![CDATA[The U.S., like the Palestinians and the rest of the international community, believes that Israeli settlements built on lands claimed by the Palestinians, including east Jerusalem, undermine peace prospects. President Obama has been more outspoken on the issue than his predecessors. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has rebuffed calls from the White House to halt all settlement activity, agreeing only to a limited freeze that does not include east Jerusalem. Israel captured both areas in the 1967 Mideast war and subsequently annexed east Jerusalem. Israel considers its east Jerusalem neighborhoods to be part of its undivided capital, but the annexation has never been internationally recognized and the neighborhoods are widely seen as settlements. ]]>

<![CDATA[Having access to the internet provides a means to read different points of view and communicate with others to share thoughts, etc. The Internet was initially a development of the government and developed through scientist-communication intellectuals and researchers. Allowing corporations full control of its content and its access is of great concern. I was able to access the early Internet in the 1980s without an Internet Provider...free. Today access is provided by a few competing providers for relatively expensive fees other than the few telephone providers at a lower cost and limited access. There is controversy over controlled content by the providers and movements to insure access is uncensored, such as the limits imposed by the governments of China, etc. The people of the United States must keep aware of what it means to have paid tiered access and what censorship their providers may be invoking. ]]>

<![CDATA[there was something i seen on tv the other night it was a little debate.... it was wether or not internet was a rite or a privellage???? yeah i know i spelled it wrong come on and rip me for it...... for real though what u guys think? i do not think it is a rite but i know some of u do... telll me why and explain.... i know the left thinks it is a rite.]]>

<![CDATA[Ronald Reagan Speech - 1964 Republican National Convention <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt1fYSAChxs" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt1fYSAChxs</a> Ron Paul: What if the People Wake Up? <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fHfdSi-GDo" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fHfdSi-GDo</a> Why did this get flagged ? and who? anyone? anyone? ]]>

<![CDATA[Do you know who else had their enemies tattooed?]]>

<![CDATA[I laugh everytime I see that pic. We need to tatoo "assclown" on every libby's forehead. At government expense, of course ......]]>

<![CDATA[ Coffee Party lol. Glad to hear there's a liberal left out there with an ounce of sense. I didnt have to read past the portal page. I've learned to pick up on the "code words." LOL. A great timesaver.]]>

<![CDATA[ Nobody washes your brain unless you allow it. I dont feel "The Corporations", "Big Pharma", "The Powers That Be", "The Greys, Plaeidians, or Reptiles","The Military Industrial Complex" or anyone else controls my life. Life is what you make it, and you can live any kind of life you want in these United States, and no one will interfere. Want to be a Big Corporate Lawyer? Go do it. Want to drop out, walk into the wilderness and eat berries? Go do it. We The People dont need the Progressive Movement to guarantee ANYTHING. We The People are doing just fine under our Constitution, and thats the way We The People are going to keep it. If YOU dont like "Corporate America", move to a small town, and open a coffee shop, and have a Coffee Party to celebrate. Now get the hell off the computer, read a book, and grow up.]]>

<![CDATA[Everyone is welcome to get involved, except marxist/progressives/communists. It doesn't matter if you're Republican, Democrat, or Independent, all are welcome! The Tea Party Patriots do not get involved with social issues! There are only three things we believe wholeheartedly: 1) Do you believe government should not spend more than it takes in? (Fiscal Responsibility) 2) Do you believe government should have less control in our lives? (Constitutionally Limited Government) 3) Do you believe EVERY American should have the right to free enterprise? (Free Market Economy) If so, then you are Tea Party Patriot! If you love liberty then you need to read the Constitution! Our military heroes have fought and died so these freedoms would never be lost. You can honor them by letting your light of liberty shine and get involved. Please visit the national site: <a href="http://www.teapartypatriots.org/Default.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.teapartypatriots.org/Default.aspx</a> to get involved today!]]>

<![CDATA[Everything that person said is nothing more than Marxist propaganda. But then, that's all they know how to do. Their King Obama taught them well. The only people who are brainwashed are the poor, pitiful, Marxist/Progressives who actually believe that nonsense.]]>

<![CDATA[This was posted on the Coffee Party's website, lol. They are speaking about the Coffee Party. Enjoy this person's sensible views: I am a liberal but more of an independent lefty open to any ideas that make sense and solve problems. So far all I am seeing on this site is 99% typical same ole' far left talking points and the same old name calling of anything right of far left. As a moderate I see posts telling me that I am the problem. What is diverse or new about that? The current discourse I am reading seems as closed minded as some of the Republicans are to our ideas. How does that promote "open and respectful dialogue" as described in the mission statement put forth by Annabel ? How is that change? So what is different about the coffee party than any other far left blog site? I can get this same stuff at the Huntington Post. I for one am just as upset with the Democrats who controlled both house and senate yet got nothing done. We are still in Iraq. We still have Gitmo. Obama just re-approved the patriot act. We have exploded the debt and I do not see much in the way of jobs in my town and my home value is crap. Obama has so many people on his staff formerly from Goldman Sachs yet we believe him when he says he is not influenced by special interests or is it because he is one of us and so we think he is not playing favors to wall street just like the last President?? Where is the change he promised me? Why then do we blame the Republicans and call them obstructionists or worse and I see no criticism of the Democrats we elected that have actually had the power of both houses even in the last years of Bush?? I think to be legitimate we need to look at ourselves in the mirror and realize the Democrats share about half the blame in the mess that is government that can not get any solutions passed. Seems both sides use the same political tactics and lack of cooperation when the other is in power. Both sides seem more interested in getting re elected then doing what is right and what the people want. I see special interest groups affecting legislation of both parties so why is it wrong for Republicans and OK for us? As one example, I am a Physician and see the tremendous cost of frivolous lawsuits on practicing medicine - hell - on everything in America- so though I realize that the American Bar Association is one of our strongest supporters of our politicians, I still think we can find a common sense way to discourage lawyers for bringing non-legitimate suits against well intentioned Doctors. Yet we will not put any such ideas in the health care bills or the idea is simply dismissed- why is that different then them? We should do anything to create a cost efficient health system regardless of which party claims the idea. Are we that blinded by love and naivety that we think that all Democrat politicians are good and well intentioned and the other side is all bad? If we do think that way, then the coffee party will never change anything and the mission statement put forth is a joke unless we are truly willing to listen to all ideas and by any sense of logic, accept that the solution always lies within a compromise and collaboration of ideas. ***I'm a conservative, and I say this person is right! THE REAL PROBLEM ARE THE LAWYERS AND SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS, not the Republicans, not the Democrats! It's long past time for Americans to unite and take this country back!]]>

<![CDATA[Brainwashed by Corporate Media that uses the government as its instrument to protect and increase their profits on the backs of the taxpayer-workers. The Progressive Movement resulted in many government run programs that protect the safety and economic survival of American citizens. Each time there were many people brainwashed to believe it a plot to to undermine American Democracy (what little there is left of it, since corporations control/ 'own' a large number of the Senators and Congressman and until President Obama they controlled the Presidency ). After passing New Deal legislation against the powerful corporate opposition the U.S. provided a safety net for the elderly with a very modest retirement benefit package called Social Security. There were jobs programs for the massive unemployment/desperation within the U.S. New laws were enacted to limit (did not end) Child exploitation by corporations, housing regulations to provide some protection against unfit housing, wage rules and limits on worker exploitation and abuse, there were health/safety regulations for the work place. Eventually decades later a health insurance program called Medicare and Medicaid were instituted to help provide for the elderly and the children living in poverty. The U.S. still remained a capitalist driven society with these government run programs. President Obama advocates a reform of healthcare as a necessitiy to insure that all people regardless of income have access to preventative and intervention healthcare. It is necessary to promote a healthy economy as well. The U.S. cannot afford to allow its citizens to spend most of their income on health insurance as will happen if these reforms are not made NOW. I and most other Americans have had enough of corporate control of their lives and want the government to intervene as it has done in the past to protect our interests and the future of our children.]]>

<![CDATA[Tea Party not your bag? Maybe you'd prefer coffee! Saturday the 13th is the National Coffee Party kickoff. In Raleigh we're meeting up at Cup A Joe on Hillsborough Street at noon. For details, <a href="http://org2.democracyinaction.org/o/6500/p/salsa/event/common/public/index.sjs?event_KEY=19231" rel="nofollow">http://org2.democracyinaction.org/o/6500/p/salsa/event/common/public/index.sjs?event_KEY=19231</a> or <a href="http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=346735359085&ref=ts" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=346735359085&ref=ts</a>. Or, to find another gathering, visit www.coffeepartyusa.com and click on the map to search. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6HP49n5X90" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6HP49n5X90</a>]]>

<![CDATA[Nope. They'd deny your claim as a pre-existing condition.You'd be out $6940, you wouldn't be able to get any other insurance, and you might as well roll over and have a cigarette, 'cause you're fucked.]]>

<![CDATA[ If you have something to say, post it publicly. NOBODY is going to open ANY email off this forum - especially one of yours. Your messages appear magically, directly in my shitcan folder, no fuss, no muss. So, say it here, or waste your e-breath.]]>

<![CDATA[That $3500 deductible plan with 20% co-insurance is alot better than going broke. Latest numbers for "myocardial infarction" or "heart attack" and being hospitalized because of such, costs on average $45,000. Now, with that shitty BCBSNC policy that you refer to, including the max out-of-pocket, you'd owe $5500. That leaves $39,500 that BCBSNC is liable for. If you wanted to include the price of premium for one year at $120, that would be $1440. $1440+$5500=$6940. So, you've spent a whopping $6940 to save your life and not become bankrupt beyond repair. You have a credit card with that much debt on it so why do you care? Just another monthly payment. You could buy a much better policy for $300 a month, but being insurance savvy and realizing that heart attacks don't happen that often you bet on the higher deductible to save cash monthly. You assumed risk (responsibility) by purchasing the higher deductible. If Obama gets his way do you think that you won't have a deductible? You could get that $120 policy for about $250 then, he may call it a Cadillac plan and you could be taxed additionally as well. The point being that you had a choice. I believe that before you "think" that this "plan" is the answer, that you read it....then you, my commrade, will want to kiss it goodbye as well.]]>

<![CDATA[Nothing but hate and fear. No logic. No purpose. Nothing constructive. Just name calling and fabrication. And they wonder why no one takes them serious. ]]>

<![CDATA[Tater is a wingnut Beck worshipper too. LMAO]]>

<![CDATA[ Nothing but hate and fear. No logic. No purpose. Nothing constructive. Just name calling and fabrication. And they wonder why no one takes them serious. Why don't you tune in to Glenn Beck tonight when he interviews the latest Dimocrat to be forced out of office because he doesn't agree with Odumbo. From other news sources it seems Massa is being forced out because he voted NO on Odumbocare. They are blowing up a prank out of all proportion to force him out of office! Yet Rangle has been given a pass for all kinds of ethics violations and tax evasion! The hate I see coming from the left is nothing compared to the hate many feel toward the rape of our government by the current administration. Really, cunt, how is that hope ad change working for you? Got your share of Odumbo's stash yet? Hate... mmm yeah I guess i do hate what they are doing to America!!! ]]>

<![CDATA[The proposed tort reform wouldn't prevent lawyers from suing. It will prevent frivolous litigation. My dad was a doctor. He retired in '92 and HATED lawyers with a passion. He wouldn't even play golf with one. Back then, he paid the same amount in malpractice insurance premium as he paid himself. I can only imagine what they're paying now? Why are malpractice premiums so high? Lawyers who sue for any little thing they can, that's why. Who pays for that ultimately? The consumer. It's common sense economics. Now those same lawyers, who made their fortunes suing the insurance companies, are in congress trying even harder to tear the system apart. The proposed tort reforms would require a ruling from the medical board that malpractice occured, before a lawsuit could be filed, and limit damages paid to reasonable amounts. This action will drastically reduce costs and people will be more inclined to chose the medical field because they won't be scared to be sued anymore. It's just common sense.]]>

<![CDATA[Nothing but hate, fear, and fabrication. Nothing.]]>

<![CDATA["""""Nothing but hate and fear. No logic. No purpose. Nothing constructive. Just name calling and fabrication. And they wonder why no one takes them serious. """"""" Aint skeerd. And I dont hate. And this is not a hateful racist country. In good faith, we elected a black president because we thought - in error - that he was the best man for the job. Logic demands that we correct that error. Nothing constructive, you say? Thats VERY odd logic, coming from a progressive. In the same sense that Obama counts "the prevention of a job lost" as the "creation of a new job", I can easily argue that the prevention of passage of destructive legislation is a constructive thing. In any case, many ideas genuinely constructive reforms - that America will support - have been proposed, and many more are in the pipeline. Just fabrication, you say? From us? Republicans? Americans? Wasnt it progressives who fabricated and lied about the causes of Global Warming? For decades? Whatever grand fabrication you percieve, it will be hard to beat the Global Warming Hoax. No one takes them seriously? Well, maybe YOU dont, and YOU are certainly nobody, aren't you? The majority - the SIGNIFICANT majority - of Americans have awakened to Obamas deciet, and contempt for America. And THAT is VERY serious. "Just name calling?" Oh, heavens to betsy NO! Its NOT just about name calling. There are so many other issues involved here. Now fuck off, commie bastard.]]>

<![CDATA[Nothing but hate and fear. No logic. No purpose. Nothing constructive. Just name calling and fabrication. And they wonder why no one takes them serious. ]]>

<![CDATA[The Dems held a super-majority. They could have passed anything, but they didnt pass THIS shit, thank God for that. (Republicans couldnt have prevented passage if they wanted to.( Its simple math, and everybody in the nation understood that, except you, it seems.) If you are going to talk shit to someone, you should start with your own political brethren. In any case, "a plan" is exactly what the Republicans want. BUT, they do NOT want to start with ObamaCrap as a platform. Because it embodies a socialist, freedom-destroying, oppressive philosophy which is espoused by the marxist Progressive Democratic Party. Everyone agrees that reform is needed. But the greater majority of the American People do not believe that THIS bill properly addresses the needs. (To say the least !!!). So be patient Ivan. Hope and change is on the way. In the mean time, have the intellectual honesty to vent your bile towards those who are more deserving of your psychotic twisted anger. Because misdirected anger from an informed source is not anger at all, but hatred. And we all know that Progressive and Socialist Democrats love the earth and all humanity, and are incapable of hate. Right, Comrade? .......... (Comrade .....?)]]>

<![CDATA[Nothing but hate and fear. No logic. No purpose. Nothing constructive. Just name calling and fabrication. And they wonder why no one takes them serious. ]]>

<![CDATA[You have to see this video! <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwIffaMMRac&feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwIffaMMRac&feature=related</a> He speaks the truth! God Bless this man!]]>

<![CDATA[The Republicans have MANY great ideas. (Tort reform, standardising across state lines, etc.) Their ideas have been proposed for many years but the Washington elite in BOTH parties shot 'em down every time. Did an insurance company break the law? Not that I'm aware of. If they have, then the law should deal with them accordingly. An OBAMA TAKEOVER of FREE ENTERPRISE is UNCONSTITUTIONAL, it's TYRANNY!!!]]>

<![CDATA[I believe you have that backwards oh worshipper of the divine oblame-a! And not all of us posting here are Republicans. Most of us have enough 'mentality' and brains to see how ignorant oblame-a is and what he is doing to our country. If you do not like the forum here-then by all means leave! Don't read it! Nobody is forcing you to...unless of course oblame-a tries to take over this 'forum' as well.]]>

<![CDATA[Amazing preachin! He needs to go on an American CRUSADE like Billy Graham!]]>

<![CDATA[We The People can kiss healthcare good bye......if Marxist Obama gets his way......Liberty will die. What's the government going to takeover next; my business, your business? This cannot be allowed to happen. A government takeover is NOT the answer! In fact, it's tyranny! THIS OBAMA TAKEOVER IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL! Our Liberty MUST be preserved! "Give me liberty, or give me death! -Patrick Henry]]>

<![CDATA[Nothing but hate and fear. No logic. No purpose. Nothing constructive. Just name calling and fabrication. And they wonder why no one takes them serious.]]>

<![CDATA[Where is the republican plan? There is not one, because they want to keep fat cat business as is. They are in bed with the insurance companies. Heathcare costs will continue to rise faster than our salaries and employers will be able to afford folks!!!!!! Soon healthcare will be just for the rich. Do not be brainwashed by this BCBS commericals you are seeing on TV that says you can afford healthcare insurance. Heck, that part is true. But read the fine print. That $120.00 a month rate has a $3,500 DEDUCTABLE and 20% COINSURANCE!!!!! You would be better off not having healtchare insurnce if you bought into that crap. WAKE UP AND REALIZE THE PROBLEM. IF YOU ARE GOING TO WINE EVERY DAY ON THIS FORUM ABOUT OBAMA, THEN AT LEAST COME UP WITH A PLAN YOU JERKS.]]>

<![CDATA[Could there be any better argument than "Obama himself" to enforce immigration laws LOL? Seriously, its interesting info, but its a year-and-half late. He's in, the country knows he's a liar, his socialist agenda has been advanced, his programs have done their damage. And in any case, if this Indonesian Marxist Muslim had been a fiscal conservative, it wouldnt concern me at all that he was an Indonesian Muslim. He teeters now on the very cusp of failure, his arms cast outward to his sides and flailing in a circular motion, his back arched, heels-down-toes-up, head and neck twisted grotesquely as he stares into the abyss. He's probably fighting with michelle, and kicking the First Dog. He's certainly slamming down alcohol and cigarettes, fighting with his own chief of staff (*APPARENTLY LOSING* that fight too), and physically intimidating members of The House. House members are reluctant to pass the Senate Bill because they dont trust him: they suspect he will double-cross them, and by-pass reconciliation by simply signing the bill into law immediately. He pleads to Congress for healthcare coverage "for the sake of his Presidency." A leap of faith. Today in St Louis he will enter a similar plea with "the public" - that is, if you call an audience of hand-picked union members in closed meeting a "public audience." Minutes tick by, one by one, towards November, when Republicans will take back the House and Senate. At that time, perhaps we can impeach, convict, or force resignation based on nation=of-origin data. My concern is "What happens between the failure to pass healthcare, and the installation of a responsible legislature?" What vicious revenge will this thug seek to inflict upon his fellow politicians, and the people of a great nation, whom HE feels double=crossed HIM? Idi Amin Lite. We have to send this bastard back to Illinois as soon as possible.]]>

<![CDATA[Thank you for posting this. Next to The Onion, this is my greatest source for entertainment. I nearly fell out of my chair laughing about this. Seriously, can you say unsubstantiated? Do you know what it means?]]>

<![CDATA[<a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/occidental.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/occidental.asp</a> I hope Health Care Reform covers psychiatrists. You need one. Were you one of the people who Reagan kicked out of the mental hospital?]]>

<![CDATA[Well Here It Is DON'T YOU LOVE THE TRUTH? Lolo Soetoro, Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro, baby Maya Soetoro, and 9 year old Barry Soetoro. This registration document, made available on Jan. 24, 2007, by the Fransiskus Assisi school in Jakarta, Indonesia, shows the registration of Barack Obama under the name Barry Soetoro made by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro. Name: Barry Soetoro Religion: Islam Nationality: Indonesian How did this little INDONESIAN Muslim child - Barry Soetoro, (A.K.A. Barack Obama) get around the issue of nationality to become President of the United States of America ? PART 2: In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama's qualifications for the presidency, the group "Americans for Freedom of Information" has released copies of President Obama's college transcripts from Occidental College .. The transcript indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia while an undergraduate at the school. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California . The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify for this scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship. This document provides the smoking gun that many of Obama's detractors have been seeking - that he is NOT a natural-born citizen of the United States - necessary to be President of these United States . Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya , here we see that there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship.. Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama's campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still on-going but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. . attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused comment on this matter. LET OTHER FOLKS KNOW THIS NEWS - THE MEDIA WON'T! ]]>

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<![CDATA[There is one argument the Progressives didn't count on; Liberty! Obama's main argument is that Insurance companies are out of control and need to be taken over by the government. Have the insurance companies broken the law? NO! If they have, then the law should deal with them. If not, then there's no justifiable reason to take them over, according to our Constitution. The government has already taken over a big piece of the car industry and a big piece of the banks. If they takeover the insurance companies then they will own close to 50% of the GDP. This cannot be allowed to happen! When the government takes over anything, we the people lose the right to free enterprise. That means our liberty dies with it. "Give me Liberty, or give me death!" -Patrick Henry]]>

<![CDATA[National debt to be higher than White House forecast, CBO says TOOLBOX Resize Print E-mail Yahoo! Buzz COMMENT 593 Comments | View All � POST A COMMENT You must be logged in to leave a comment. Log in | Register Why Do I Have to Log In Again? Discussion Policy WHO'S BLOGGING � Links to this article By Lori Montgomery Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, March 6, 2010 President Obama's proposed budget would add more than $9.7 trillion to the national debt over the next decade, congressional budget analysts said Friday. Proposed tax cuts for the middle class account for nearly a third of that shortfall. The 10-year outlook released by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office is somewhat gloomier than White House projections, which found that Obama's budget request would produce deficits that would add about $8.5 trillion to the national debt by 2020. The CBO and the White House are in relative agreement about the short-term budget picture, with both predicting a deficit of about $1.5 trillion this year -- a post-World War II record at 10.3 percent of the overall economy -- and $1.3 trillion in 2011. But the CBO is considerably less optimistic about future years, predicting that deficits would never fall below 4 percent of the economy under Obama's policies and would begin to grow rapidly after 2015. Deficits of that magnitude would force the Treasury to continue borrowing at prodigious rates, sending the national debt soaring to 90 percent of the economy by 2020, the CBO said. Interest payments on the debt would also skyrocket by $800 billion over the same period. Obama's tax-cutting agenda is by far the biggest contributor to those budget gaps, the CBO said. As part of his campaign pledge to protect families making less than $250,000 a year from new taxes, the president is proposing to prevent the alternative minimum tax from expanding to ensnare millions of additional taxpayers. He also wants to make permanent a series of tax cuts enacted during the Bush administration, which are scheduled to expire at the end of this year. "Over the next 10 years, those policies would reduce revenues and boost outlays for refundable tax credits by a total of $3.0 trillion," wrote Douglas W. Elmendorf, the CBO director. Combined with interest payments on that shortfall, the tax cuts account for the entire increase in deficits that would result from Obama's proposals. Obama is convening a special commission to bring deficits down to 3 percent of the economy, but the CBO report shows that Obama could accomplish that goal simply by letting the Bush tax cuts expire and paying for changes to the alternative minimum tax. Other policy changes, such as Obama's signature health-care initiative and a plan to dramatically expand the federal student loan program, would have significant effects on the budget, Elmendorf wrote, but they generally would be paid for and therefore would not drive deficits higher.]]>